Comments on: Let your method of learning reflect your goals with the language http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/ Fluent Every Year Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jeff http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-1056 Jeff Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:22:55 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-1056 Arguing and drama can make for some interesting language learning ... Arguing and drama can make for some interesting language learning …

]]> By: Jeff http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-835 Jeff Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:22:55 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-835 Arguing and drama can make for some interesting language learning ... Arguing and drama can make for some interesting language learning …

]]> By: Randy (@Yearlyglot) http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-834 Randy (@Yearlyglot) Sat, 05 Jun 2010 23:56:03 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-834 Thanks, Jeff. You're right, that was my point. Friedmann is just trying to stir the pot a little bit. She probably just wants to see more arguing and drama. Thanks, Jeff. You're right, that was my point. Friedmann is just trying to stir the pot a little bit. She probably just wants to see more arguing and drama.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-833 Jeff Sat, 05 Jun 2010 22:51:49 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-833 I really don't see where Randy is badmouthing Steve Kaufmann in this post -- don't go reading between the lines. <br><br>Randy's pointing out that these language debates prove nothing and solve nothing. And he's right IMO. You missed the thrust of the post -- do what works for you. As a friend of mine says, there's no one method to rule them all. I really don't see where Randy is badmouthing Steve Kaufmann in this post — don't go reading between the lines.

Randy's pointing out that these language debates prove nothing and solve nothing. And he's right IMO. You missed the thrust of the post — do what works for you. As a friend of mine says, there's no one method to rule them all.

]]> By: cm http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-811 cm Mon, 31 May 2010 17:58:31 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-811 What a great way to look at it. It's so true, we all have to figure out what we want to get out of learning a language and we all have different paths to get there! No one has to be declared right or the "winner." What a great way to look at it. It's so true, we all have to figure out what we want to get out of learning a language and we all have different paths to get there! No one has to be declared right or the “winner.”

]]> By: Words on a page » Blog Archive » Do what works for you - A blog about writing, in its various forms http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-805 Words on a page » Blog Archive » Do what works for you - A blog about writing, in its various forms Mon, 31 May 2010 10:36:55 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-805 [...] week, he pointed me to a debate between two language bloggers and a good analysis of the debate by a third language blogger. Not wanting to sit through the video of what seems like [...] [...] week, he pointed me to a debate between two language bloggers and a good analysis of the debate by a third language blogger. Not wanting to sit through the video of what seems like [...]

]]> By: Randy (@Yearlyglot) http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-761 Randy (@Yearlyglot) Wed, 26 May 2010 15:50:06 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-761 Thank you for your comments! Thank you for your comments!

]]> By: Friedemann http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/05/let-your-method-of-learning-reflect-your-goals-with-the-language/#comment-760 Friedemann Wed, 26 May 2010 14:53:26 +0000 http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/?p=2165#comment-760 Hi Randy,<br><br>you may have read some of my comments on Steve's blog. I am actually a frequent visitor to your beautiful city since I have a good friend in Itasca. <br><br>What is so bad about a debate? Nothing is more boring than agreeing about everything. You don't like Steve, ok. But why do you badmouth him here and elsewhere on the web? He doesn't badmouth you. You said in the other post below you didn't want to engage in this mud slinging, yet you take up the issue again here including fresh jabs at Steve. Why is that?<br><br>Currently I live and work in China. I speak, read and listen Chinese every single day. I started studying the language two years ago. There is no way I could have spoken Chinese on day one and enjoyed it. What gives me confidence is knowledge in the language. I don't need no motivator to tell me about this elusive interhuman virations thing essential to language learning. This is all BS to me. The speak-on-day-one advocates could never explain to him how they address comprehension, for me the most important aspect of language learning. No positive attidude makes you comprehend words you don't know. In fact, speaking with insufficient comprehension ability is frustrating and demotivating at least to me. <br><br>Reading is so important for me to improve in any language, and not only for the purpose of reading. You can analyse and mine a text for phrases and expressions as opposed to spoken words that just fly by. So I think reading is especially important for output. I cannot imagine living in China and learning Mandarin without learning to read. Steve's goal is not primarily reading as he has said many times and I don't know why you make that claim again and again.<br><br>Friedemann Hi Randy,

you may have read some of my comments on Steve's blog. I am actually a frequent visitor to your beautiful city since I have a good friend in Itasca.

What is so bad about a debate? Nothing is more boring than agreeing about everything. You don't like Steve, ok. But why do you badmouth him here and elsewhere on the web? He doesn't badmouth you. You said in the other post below you didn't want to engage in this mud slinging, yet you take up the issue again here including fresh jabs at Steve. Why is that?

Currently I live and work in China. I speak, read and listen Chinese every single day. I started studying the language two years ago. There is no way I could have spoken Chinese on day one and enjoyed it. What gives me confidence is knowledge in the language. I don't need no motivator to tell me about this elusive interhuman virations thing essential to language learning. This is all BS to me. The speak-on-day-one advocates could never explain to him how they address comprehension, for me the most important aspect of language learning. No positive attidude makes you comprehend words you don't know. In fact, speaking with insufficient comprehension ability is frustrating and demotivating at least to me.

Reading is so important for me to improve in any language, and not only for the purpose of reading. You can analyse and mine a text for phrases and expressions as opposed to spoken words that just fly by. So I think reading is especially important for output. I cannot imagine living in China and learning Mandarin without learning to read. Steve's goal is not primarily reading as he has said many times and I don't know why you make that claim again and again.

Friedemann

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