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		<title>By: Randy the Yearlyglot</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-4515</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy the Yearlyglot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent comments!

Your professor&#039;s suggestions sound very practical to me. Still, it&#039;s no surprise that they were not well-received... as I have said on many occasions, Esperanto has more in common with a cult than it does with a language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent comments!</p>
<p>Your professor&#8217;s suggestions sound very practical to me. Still, it&#8217;s no surprise that they were not well-received&#8230; as I have said on many occasions, Esperanto has more in common with a cult than it does with a language.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-4511</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old thread, but as a lifelong fan of Esperanto (or &quot;Eo&quot;), I thought I&#039;d weigh in on some of the points above. 

In short, I agree with almost all of them.   The one that I most strongly agree with is the point about correlatives.  Easy to learn, nearly impossible to differentiate.  I&#039;ve tried to share my love of Eo with English speaking friends, and this is always the &quot;speedbump&quot; we run into.  New speakers - and even veteran speakers -- can hardly tell the difference between &quot;kie&quot; and &quot;kia.&quot;   

My college linguistics professor at the Univ of Wisconsin went to an Eo congress in the 1990s and suggested some slight &quot;tweaks&quot; - all of which made great sense.  (E.g. swap &quot;kie&quot; for &quot;kive&quot;,  the &quot;v&quot; coming from &quot;dove&quot; in Italian I believe . . .and perhaps partially inspired by the Ido &quot;ube&quot;, who knows... But all derivatives stay the same as if it were still &quot;kie&quot;. . .)   He nearly got his head ripped off.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old thread, but as a lifelong fan of Esperanto (or &#8220;Eo&#8221;), I thought I&#8217;d weigh in on some of the points above. </p>
<p>In short, I agree with almost all of them.   The one that I most strongly agree with is the point about correlatives.  Easy to learn, nearly impossible to differentiate.  I&#8217;ve tried to share my love of Eo with English speaking friends, and this is always the &#8220;speedbump&#8221; we run into.  New speakers &#8211; and even veteran speakers &#8212; can hardly tell the difference between &#8220;kie&#8221; and &#8220;kia.&#8221;   </p>
<p>My college linguistics professor at the Univ of Wisconsin went to an Eo congress in the 1990s and suggested some slight &#8220;tweaks&#8221; &#8211; all of which made great sense.  (E.g. swap &#8220;kie&#8221; for &#8220;kive&#8221;,  the &#8220;v&#8221; coming from &#8220;dove&#8221; in Italian I believe . . .and perhaps partially inspired by the Ido &#8220;ube&#8221;, who knows&#8230; But all derivatives stay the same as if it were still &#8220;kie&#8221;. . .)   He nearly got his head ripped off. </p>
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		<title>By: kaja</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-3350</link>
		<dc:creator>kaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe I could ever convince Randy of anything based on how convicted he sounds in this post and the comments, but to anyone else out there:

- Esperanto natives number ~1000 (not a few dozen)
- The statistic about Esperanto speakers speaking on average 2 foreign languages besides Esperanto comes from the book of sociological studies in Esperantio, &quot;La Rondo Familia&quot; which you can get here: http://omploader.org/vNWQ3dQ/Eo%20-%20Nikola%20Ra%C5%A1i%C4%87%20-%20La%20Rondo%20Familia-%20Sociologiaj%20esploroj%20en%20Esperantio.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe I could ever convince Randy of anything based on how convicted he sounds in this post and the comments, but to anyone else out there:</p>
<p>- Esperanto natives number ~1000 (not a few dozen)<br />
- The statistic about Esperanto speakers speaking on average 2 foreign languages besides Esperanto comes from the book of sociological studies in Esperantio, &#8220;La Rondo Familia&#8221; which you can get here: <a href="http://omploader.org/vNWQ3dQ/Eo%20-%20Nikola%20Ra%C5%A1i%C4%87%20-%20La%20Rondo%20Familia-%20Sociologiaj%20esploroj%20en%20Esperantio.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://omploader.org/vNWQ3dQ/Eo%20-%20Nikola%20Ra%C5%A1i%C4%87%20-%20La%20Rondo%20Familia-%20Sociologiaj%20esploroj%20en%20Esperantio.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Randy the Yearlyglot</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy the Yearlyglot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you. Esperanto is mostly useless in my opinion. The same time is much better spent, as you suggest, learning a real language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you. Esperanto is mostly useless in my opinion. The same time is much better spent, as you suggest, learning a real language.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-2519</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for bringing this up again but what is the point of learning this when you can invest a little more time and learn a true language where you can visit the country of and make so many friends in that area? Also, what&#039;s the point only speaking that language, like people do, on the internet? It makes no sense.

Secondly, it can never be an international language as it relies too heavily on slavik and romance langauges, from what I&#039;ve seen. What&#039;s the point some one arabic or chinese learning this? It will be just too difficult. 

Thirdly, it should be made as simple as possible, not have those digraphs on them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for bringing this up again but what is the point of learning this when you can invest a little more time and learn a true language where you can visit the country of and make so many friends in that area? Also, what&#8217;s the point only speaking that language, like people do, on the internet? It makes no sense.</p>
<p>Secondly, it can never be an international language as it relies too heavily on slavik and romance langauges, from what I&#8217;ve seen. What&#8217;s the point some one arabic or chinese learning this? It will be just too difficult. </p>
<p>Thirdly, it should be made as simple as possible, not have those digraphs on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy the Yearlyglot</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-2203</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy the Yearlyglot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny</p>
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		<title>By: iu</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-2201</link>
		<dc:creator>iu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Randy

I think this video will make you laugh :) http://farbskatol.net/dotclear/index.php?2008/12/17/120-kiel-varbi-por-esperanto#co

  good luck for italian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Randy</p>
<p>I think this video will make you laugh :) <a href="http://farbskatol.net/dotclear/index.php?2008/12/17/120-kiel-varbi-por-esperanto#co" rel="nofollow">http://farbskatol.net/dotclear/index.php?2008/12/17/120-kiel-varbi-por-esperanto#co</a></p>
<p>  good luck for italian.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco</title>
		<link>http://www.yearlyglot.com/2010/07/five-failures-of-esperanto/#comment-2110</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Randy,
I&#039;m so sorry you have found nobody to speak with in Esperanto... Sometimes I have the opposite problems... too many skype and facebook chats open when I need to work (not to mention skype calls when I am in the lab with audio enabled on my laptop...). Anyway, as a respectful PhD student, I am a proud support of procrastination, so if you are interested in speaking in Esperanto about its evolution or about politics, culture, everyday life, science, technology, literature or whatever you are interested in, please give me a shout ;-)
Francesco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Randy,<br />
I&#8217;m so sorry you have found nobody to speak with in Esperanto&#8230; Sometimes I have the opposite problems&#8230; too many skype and facebook chats open when I need to work (not to mention skype calls when I am in the lab with audio enabled on my laptop&#8230;). Anyway, as a respectful PhD student, I am a proud support of procrastination, so if you are interested in speaking in Esperanto about its evolution or about politics, culture, everyday life, science, technology, literature or whatever you are interested in, please give me a shout ;-)<br />
Francesco</p>
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		<title>By: Enrique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
I am sorry about being a little late to post here.

I am used to read critics about Esperanto ... by people that spent hours searching for what they believe are negative traits of Esperanto. 
Had they spent 15 - 20 of those hours in learning Esperanto, now they would be happy Esperanto users and would never again think about any of those imagined problems of the language.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry about being a little late to post here.</p>
<p>I am used to read critics about Esperanto &#8230; by people that spent hours searching for what they believe are negative traits of Esperanto.<br />
Had they spent 15 &#8211; 20 of those hours in learning Esperanto, now they would be happy Esperanto users and would never again think about any of those imagined problems of the language.</p>
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		<title>By: Friedemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 08:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might be a little late to this thread but I thought I&#039;d comment anyway. I don&#039;t speak Esperanto myself and have no inclination to learn it but I don&#039;t agree with part of your criticism, especially that on the tonal similarity of certain words.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you learn Chinese you have to deal with countless homophones and the subtleties of the tones which are very difficult to discern for foreigners. If I enter the Chinese word &quot;ji shi&quot; im my dictionary using pinyin, I get 13 hits and they can mean anything from &quot;in time&quot; to &quot;technical expert&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People have to deal with way more tonal ambiguities in other languages than in Esperanto. The way we perceive and differentiate sounds is very subjective and depends on our mother tongue as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might be a little late to this thread but I thought I&#39;d comment anyway. I don&#39;t speak Esperanto myself and have no inclination to learn it but I don&#39;t agree with part of your criticism, especially that on the tonal similarity of certain words.</p>
<p>If you learn Chinese you have to deal with countless homophones and the subtleties of the tones which are very difficult to discern for foreigners. If I enter the Chinese word &#8220;ji shi&#8221; im my dictionary using pinyin, I get 13 hits and they can mean anything from &#8220;in time&#8221; to &#8220;technical expert&#8221;.</p>
<p>People have to deal with way more tonal ambiguities in other languages than in Esperanto. The way we perceive and differentiate sounds is very subjective and depends on our mother tongue as well.</p>
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