New language mission for 2012!

Greektown

As I mentioned in my last post, my first goal in choosing a language this year was that I pick something which I will have many opportunities to use. In that post, I listed out several considerations, and I think it’s important to go through a similar process when choosing a new language project for yourself.

In my case, though, there are a few additional things to think about when choosing. Most of my readers probably don’t have a language learning blog. And most of my readers probably won’t be starting another language every year.

But in my case, these are important additional criteria. Having succeeded at Italian and then fallen short with Turkish, it would be a huge discredit to me if I were to turn my attention to another romance language. Whether fair or not, any success would be viewed with the advantage of my Italian success. (Not to mention the fact that I speak Spanish too!) Likewise, having dabbled in Polish for a month last year, and being a fluent speaker of Russian, I couldn’t really choose a Slavic language either, for the same reason.

I don’t want my poor results with Turkish to become an excuse for anyone to say that a language is “too hard”, or that a year isn’t enough time. My failure was mostly an issue of motivation, and the only way I can prove that is by continuing to attack difficult languages and to succeed when I do!

And so it is that I have chosen to learn Greek this year.

The Greek language is not slavic, not romance, not germanic. It has a new alphabet. It has odd spelling peculiarities and is not phonetic. In summary, there is nothing about the Greek language that can be said to give me any advantages in learning.

My only advantage, which it is my intention to prove, is that I will have opportunities to use the language. I work closely with a fluent speaker of Greek. The office where I work is located 2 blocks from Chicago’s “Greektown”. And I intend (hopefully) to move to an apartment in or near Greektown soon.

The bottom line is, this is a language I will be able to use. And that’s the most important key to learning: you must use what you learn.

Well, that’s it, then. Wish me luck!

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  • http://languagehopper.blogspot.com Rick

    Yay, comments are open again!

    I’m looking forward to following your progress with Greek. It’s a language I’ve considered studying (but will hold off, for now).

    R.
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  • Ev Mylonaki

    Καλή τύχη! Καλή χρονιά! :)

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    ευχαριστω!

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Yeah, I think it’s been long enough for the troublemakers to lose interest. I miss the discussion, as I know others do too.

    I’m looking forward to Greek. It should be interesting!

  • http://englishharmony.com Robby Kukurs

    Hi Randy,

    Happy New Year and it’s nice to see you back blogging! 

    I really hope your new language mission is going to pan out as planned, but I have a question regarding it.

    Are you planning to stay away from using any language learning materials such as books, software etc. like when you were learning Turkish and focus only on communication and contextual learning?

    Thanks,

    Robby

  • http://www.polymathisthegoal.com Chris Sarda

    Good luck with the Greek, should be a wonderful language and culture to learn about!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamie-Johnson/780393355 Jamie Johnson

    Can’t wait to hear more!  Good luck Randy.

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    No. I think I learned quite a bit about the advantages and disadvantages of avoiding learning materials in my Turkish mission last year.

    There are some aspects of that approach which I will probably continue to use in all my future language learning projects, but there are also some aspects to the “blitzkrieg approach” I tried with Polish last year, which I’m anxious to experiment with this time around…

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    I hope so. There’s certainly a lot of history there…

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Thanks!

  • http://www.davidmansaray.com/ David Mansaray

    Interesting choice Randy. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I rememeber you saying that you dislike the sound of Greek in a conversatoin we had last year. Has that changed or does it not matter to you any more? 

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Before I learned any German, I remember thinking that it sounded like a harsh language, full of people clearing their throats. Now, after some exposure to it, and actually understanding some of it, I find that it can be incredibly pleasant at times.

    Before I learned Russian, it sounded like a scary, imposing, evil language. Now, as a fluent speaker, I just hear people’s thoughts, feelings, and information.

    Conversely, prior to learning Italian, I romanticized it to be “the most beautiful language in the world” (la bella lingua, as the saying goes), but having spent some time in Italy, I saw how easily people could take all the beauty out of the language when they’re just using it day to day. They’re not concerned with its beauty, they’re just communicating. 

    So I guess what I’m saying is… sure, I may not have liked how Greek sounded to me prior to this mission, but that’s no reason not to learn, and I have a strong feeling that after I learn to speak and understand Greek I will have a completely new opinion of how it sounds.  :)

  • Anonymous

    Felice anno nuovo! Spero che abbia tanto successo con la nuova lingua!  Conosco bene la zona greca a Chicago! Lavoravo molto vicino a Chicago Circle Campus e andavo spesso a Greek Town! Auguri! Melissa
    (la studentessa matta: http://www.studentessamatta.com)

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Ci sono molti ristoranti belli là. Spero di traslocare in Greek Town quando termine il mio locazione. Allora ci vorrebbero solo poche isolati camminare al lavoro.
    Grazie per i tuoi commenti!

  • http://www.facebook.com/cmpoli Cesare Monteleone

    Hey Randy, I am fluent in Greek and I can help you if you have any questions! :)  By the way I am just wondering, is that picture above of the ’Greektown’ where you are from in Chicago?  Where I live in Canada, we also have a Greektown in Downtown Toronto, and I go there very often.  Great restaurants and stores there! :)  Are you planning to visit your Greektown a lot during your Greek study?  Thanks. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/cmpoli Cesare Monteleone

    Yes, not to mention that Greek and Latin are two very profilic languages. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/cmpoli Cesare Monteleone

    Hey Randy sorry, it was an accidental test…

  • Anonymous

    In my opinion, we’re excited while learning a language because we continuously find something different and new as we’re progressing our way through the process of learning that particular language, it can be either its pronunciation or its alphabets or its structures etc. In this case, Greek is very interesting to my mind since it is one of the ancient languages, the language of knowledge and philosophy in the ancient times. So you speak more or less the language of Socrates though you are going to learn Modern Greek. I think in every language there is a few Greek words even in Arabic because the Arabs were the translators of the Greek wisdom. I’ve also got Teach Yourself Greek but I have not read it yet, just for my collection and reference if I need it sometime. Good luck with your learning Greek :)

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Indeed.  I expect that learning Greek will eventually give me a lot of new insight into English, as well as many other languages.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cmpoli Cesare Monteleone

    I used the Teach Yourself Beginner Greek, it’s pretty good. :)

  • http://www.ikindalikelanguages.com lyzazel – Linas
  • http://www.everydaylanguagelearner.com Aaron G Myers

    Great choice Randy.  How important it is to be able to use what we learn!  Wish you could have had more success with Turkish – mostly so you would come visit!  Looking forward to the Greek journey though, and this way you can visit Greece next year and hop  over into Turkey as well.  Good Luck!

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    I remember you doing that. (Actually, I think it was 2010, so two summers ago.) I had planned to have a look back through your site and see what I could use. 

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Thanks.  Yes, that photos is from Greektown. It’s only three blocks walk from my office, so I go there often, and I will probably go even more often now that I’m learning Greek.

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Outright success with Turkish fluency is not a requirement of me visiting. Besides, it’s not as if I didn’t learn anything… :)

    Proximity to Greece is a good selling point for a two-part travel plan, though! While I’m learning Greek this year, maybe I’ll continue trying to improve my Turkish with that in mind!

  • http://www.ikindalikelanguages.com lyzazel – Linas

    True, you know better than I do. :)
    Good luck with your mission. I hope you can do better than you did!

    (And I’m not complaining by saying that: I think I did pretty well.) I do still sometimes hear Greek and it’s always exciting to do so now. :]

  • Krzysztof Klamycki

    Я мог бы писать по-английски, но я выбрал другой неродной язык. Греческий – хороший выбор. Я до сих пор учил только древнегреческий, но, наверное, когда-то я начну учить и современный язык. А может быть и польский всё-таки попробуешь? Для меня он родной и поэтому простой, но если на самом деле у тебя возможность иметь интенсивный контакт, это может быть полезно… Особенно, что если ты по-русски говоришь, это будет на много легче…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000395788462 Tanisha Shulamit Everett

    I will join you on this quest. I have always wanted to learn greek.. Good Luck. malaka!

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Have you gotten off to a good start?

  • http://www.yearlyglot.com/ Randy the Yearlyglot

    Спасибо. Да, польский наверное скоро попробую. Может в следующий год.

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